I can see my 'law student/grad/even lawyers' who don't 'like Obama RIGHT NOW. Let the 'interpretation' of the language of the words BEGIN! @ the 'loose interpretations' that will no doubt ensue do to this 'proclamation'. lol This will be GOOD!
I rarely get political here. Not due to lack of knowledge but rather due to lack of patience it takes to discuss politics. I am not really interested in changing anyone's mind like some people seem to be. @ the arguing down.
But this is SILLY. She wants it done as a 'formality'? Who the fuck does she think she is fooling with that shit? Fuck outta here. You don't want him to have it. Just say that shit and stop all the tomfoolery Ginny. Stop insulting our intelligence with this shit. Talk about wasting our time on shit that is not important..
She is citing an Article in the Constitution and the actions of a past President as her reasoning. And even that is bull. @ the last one..
What about what Teddy Roosevelt in 1906? What did he do? How did it come about? Lets find out shall we?
Here is what happened: Roosevelt was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (not Noble) in 1906 for his work in the negotiations that led to the Treaty of Portsmouth ending the Russo-Japanese War in 1905. This made him the first American to win a Nobel Prize in any of the categories.
The Prize consisted of:
* a large gold medal,
* a diploma in a fancy case
* and a cash award.
He intended to give away the prize money explaining to his children that to accept it would be like taking money for saving a drowning man.
On January 8, 1907, he wrote to the Nobel Prize Committee:
"The medal and diploma will be prized by me throughout my life, and by my children after my death. I have turned over the money to a committee, including the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States and the Secretaries of Agriculture and Commerce and Labor, in trust, to be used as a foundation for promoting the cause of industrial peace in this country. In our modern civilization it is as essential to secure a righteous peace based upon sympathy and fair dealing between the different classes of society as it is to secure such a peace among the nations of the earth; and therefore I have felt that the use I have made of the amount of the Nobel Prize was one peculiarly in accordance with the spirit of the gift."
The Treaty of Portsmouth resolved the Russo-Japanese War and earned Theodore Roosevelt recognition by the Nobel Prize Committee.
Normally the Secretary of State would negotiate such delicate situations as this. But just prior to the negotiations Secretary of State, John Hay, the last cabinet holdover from McKinley's administration, died in July 1905. This single event creates a turning point in Theodore Roosevelt's presidency.
Hay was one of the two secretaries to Abraham Lincoln and a friend of TR's father. As a result Roosevelt couldn't, in good conscience, remove Hay as his Secretary of State. That prevented Roosevelt from pursuing his own diplomatic initiatives. However, when Hay died, Roosevelt took charge.
[Incidentally, John Hay would pay $100 for 6 strands of hair removed from Abraham Lincoln at the autopsy. The strands would be put in a ring and given to Roosevelt. He wore the ring at his inauguration.]
TR did not actually pick up the prize money (or the prize itself) until 1910, when he visited Europe after his African Safari. He did not feel right accepting the prize while he was in office. TR wore an old fashioned suit with a top hat when he went to get the award. He picked up the prize in Christiania, Norway, on May 5, 1910 and part of his speech to the Nobel Prize Committee is as follows:
"I think it eminently just and proper that in most cases the recipient of the prize should keep for his own use the prize in its entirety. But in this case, while I did not act officially as President of the United States, it was nevertheless only because I was President that I was enabled to act at all; and I felt that the money must be considered as having been given me in trust for the United States. I therefore used it as a nucleus for a foundation to forward the cause of industrial peace, as being well within the general purpose of your committee; for in our complex industrial civilization of today the peace of righteousness and justice, the only kind of peace worth having, is at least as necessary in the industrial world as it is among nations. There is at least as much need to curb the cruel greed and arrogance of part of the world of capital, to curb the cruel greed and violence of part of the world of labor, as to check a cruel and unhealthy militarism in international relationships."
TR's idea for an industrial peace foundation never came to be. By 1918 it was clear the the foundation would not go forward. Instead, during World War I, he donated the funds to war relief efforts.
In his book, "The Lion's Pride", Ed Renehan, Jr. writes,
"He made twenty-eight different donations of various amounts. A few of the gifts included $6,900 to the Red Cross; $5,000 to Eleanor for her Y.M.C.A. project; an additional $4,000 to the YMCA National War Work Council; and $1,000 to Edith's sister, Emily Carow, a volunteer with the Italian Red Cross at Porto Maurizo, Italy."
SOURCENow this US Rep. in Florida would have you believe that Congress asked him to do it and that he 'complied'. No. It is pretty clear what happened. THIS IS ONE OF THE EVENTS that she is citing as to why Barack should 'ask permission' to accept the award.
I hope that you are smart enough to figure out what is REALLY going on here..It is pretty clear what happened here...
Here is the Article that she is citing as the reason why he should have to ask...
Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution clearly states: 'no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince or foreign state.
It is the 'foreign state' part.
Here's the article:Republican Reps. Ron Paul, Ginny Brown-Waite and Cliff Stearns have sent President Barack Obama a letter asking him to consult with Congress before accepting the Nobel Peace Prize he won last month.
Their press release states: "Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution clearly states: 'no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince or foreign state. I urge President Obama to affirm his devotion to our Constitution and seek the consent of Congress before accepting the award in Oslo, Norway, on Dec. 10.”
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Ron Paul is behind this one. I see you Ron. Keep that good ole disdain up and running! Ole sucker ass mofo...Now your ass wants to 'uphold' the Constitution. Cute.
