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(Words) I don't mind being 'wrong' but please don't try to 'change' my mind unsolicited.




'Cause I'm not here to change yours.. 


















I'm not even gonna beat around the bush. I like to be right. We all pretty much do. It is feels good. Nothing like knowing you are right. Truly. 

We are human though and sometimes we are wrong. It is a fact. I usually don't talk much when I am wrong. That's just me though. Some of you though... (chuckles) 


Sometimes, in a discussion, more THAN ONE PARTY IS WRONG. We have a hard time accepting that one though. We are taught that there is 'right and wrong' and a winner must be declared! Not true. Especially when we are dealing with 'what we feel'. I KNOW BETTER THAN THAT THOUGH. It is a 'Life' lesson that knows NO AGE limit in regards to when you learn it. Sometimes...HELL MOST TIMES...YOU HAVE TO 'RELEARN IT' over and over again in many different settings. I digress though. Another post..another time..


Sometimes, a 'discussion' is nothing more than a two or more people discussing their theories on a certain subject. Mixed in with some facts of course but mainly theories and speculation. Actually, this would describe most discussions. We may know one or two facts and then we sprinkle in our various theories and state those as fact too! I try not to do it but I'm guilty of that so I USUALLY ADMIT THAT IT IS MY THOUGHT. Not some of you though. Nope. You state your opinion like it is 'fact'. Naw. It isn't. Pretty sure most of you encounter this daily on Twitter. An opinion followed (or preceded with)a hash tagged '#fact' after it all because the person tweeting has a small sample size that 'agrees' with their thoughts on whatever the subject is at hand. 

There is DEFINITELY no winner in this scenario. Sorry. I hate to break it to you. Not if the parties involved TRULY believe their theories. You aren't gonna change folks minds. I have learned that. So I don't try. If you ask me 'why' I think something, I will tell you. If I happen to see where I am 'flawed' in my ways of thinking, cool. If I don't though...eh... Same with ME THOUGH. That is a TWO WAY STREET. If I ask you or tell you to 'explain' why you feel that way, I'm not doing so to 'change your mind'. I genuinely want to know. I might not 'agree' with your way of thinking but my goal is not to 'win'. I see that I am clearly different though as some of you ask with the INTENT ON ONE THING.  Y'all really are out here trying to change folks minds. I don't have time for that shit. I don't have time to argue about 'speculation', 'thought' or feelings. You can have that. 

The facts though? They are the facts. It doesn't matter what you 'think someone would do based on what they did in other situations' if they ACTUALLY DID IT in THIS ONE. You can't dispute those. Try as you might and well...some of you do try REALLY FUCKING HARD TO DO SO, YOU CAN'T. Very hard. Can't dispute them. 


One fact doesn't a 'discussion' make though. Some of you don't know that either. We get it. You got one fact off. Cool. Lets talk about those other four things that you 'spoke' on based on how you would feel if you were in the situation. Again, I'm not here to argue your 'feelings'. As soon as I see that whatever we are discussing is more of you projecting how you would feel or how you would react, I'm out. I can't 'argue' that down nor will I try. I'm not 'armed with enough information' to even attempt it. So I don't... 



Listen, I LOVE TO DISCUSS THINGS. Not argue though. I'll bow out. You got that. I know I'm not always 'right'. Never professed that. There are times when I see some of the things folks say or feel and I want to say something SO BAD BUT I DON'T. I can't do it all the time though so I UNDERSTAND the urge to come and 'debate' someone's opinion. You just have to remember....


You aren't the only one who is passionate about what they believe. Some folks will concede from your flurry of 'words' while others will stand toe to toe with you and go word for word with you. 

No matter how emphatic you state your opinion. No matter how many times you 'skip over', gloss over what the other person is saying, or whatever defensive tactics you employ once you feel like someone isn't 'hearing you'. No matter how many times you try to make the conversation personal. No matter how many times you 'give a dismissive credit and go 'right back into your point'. It doesn't make you 'right'. It just makes you combative. That's it. I don't care how much the peanut gallery 'chuckles' it up or tells you 'Get 'em son..I see you..'. You still aren't 'right'... Sometimes nobody 'wins'. It is just that simple. 



Now you understand why I don't really 'debate' folks. I've come to the understandings above and I really can't be out here getting that 'upset' about things. I mean, I will entertain a conversation for a bit here and there but I know what I know and you know what you know. We can just leave it at that. Sometimes, BOTH OF US MIGHT BE RIGHT and sometimes both of us might be wrong. Sometimes you might be right and if that is the case, I PROBABLY KNOW YOU ARE AND THAT IS WHY I DON'T 'BRING THE DISCUSSION TO YOU'. Sometimes though..I'm right... Sometimes.. 

Maybe I don't wanna 'reveal' just how I know. @ proving how I know certain shit. Sometimes, it just isn't that important to me to jeopardize what I have been privy to as far as information goes. Since I know I'm not the only one who knows 'shit', I GIVE THAT SAME COURTESY to you when we 'discuss' something. I'm just not here for the disrespectful conversations at this point though. So if I brush you off, you can go to this post and say "Ah...I remember now.." @ why. 

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....On: Somehow thinking that 'A person's reaction/response to a story' somehow negates their point...

I wasn't as clear with this in the post I made before and I apologize. It was done (as most things are done here) on the fly. Raw and uncut. So yeah....This is what it was originally 'called'....Not as succinct but you may recognize why it was called as such:

Niggas (ignorant people in general) using someone being 'invested' in something as some sorta 'bad thing' while THEY ARGUE UP AND DOWN WITH THE SAME EMOTION ABOUT SAID THING/this bullshit ya'll keep running up with talking about 'You can tell the story is personal for a lot of you'...Yeah that one needs to REALLY BE ADDRESSED 'cause that is some BULLSHIT. 




Now if you don't understand what I am saying...let me give you an example that most of you can relate to. Something that most of us have argued/debated/discussed. The Jalen Rose "Uncle Tom" thing....

You see, most people who were of the opinion that Jalen was right to call Grant Hill an 'Uncle Tom' (Without having either read Uncle Tom's Cabin or having a FULL understanding of the word to boot) then TURNED AROUND AND DEFENDED THEIR ARGUMENTS TO THOSE THAT DIDN'T AGREE WITH THIS BULLSHIT HERE:

"It must have happened to you.....or someone you like....Thus meaning it MUST BE TRUE...Your feelings on the subject are null and void because the issue exists"


(Looks into the camera) Go ahead and laugh 'cause some of those people were YOU. 


Its okay..Really. Laugh it up. I mean I am not going to change your mind. What I will do is ream you a new one for feeling that way though. Here's why...


WHAT SUBJECT THAT YOU DON'T FEEL PASSIONATE ABOUT ISN'T DOESN'T STEM FROM YOU FEELING EMPATHY/UNDERSTANDING/OR DOWNRIGHT PAIN FROM IT? I'll wait....'Cause most of you aren't arguing/debating/discussing things that don't hit close to home in some manner...No matter what side of the fence you are on. Knocking people for that is just plain SILLY TO ME.

From your 'siding' with the 'workers' (players) with the lockout down to the empathizing with that poor lil black girl in class who 'is struggling' because she reminds you of....YOU. When did this become 'dissworthy' or some 'point of victory'? Oh I know.....


You know it is coming.....






Wait for it...








WHEN WHITEY DID IT TO YOU! That's right..Once again, you have taken a tactic that was used to 'oppress' and belittle others (Your own people especially if you are a minority) and now you have taken it and fine tuned it to fit your lil agendas! So now here you come....Mrs/Mrs Psychological bullshitter back on your bullshit. Just like 'Whitey'...Good job! 


For the record, I will say this again about the Grant Hill thing. The folks that 'originated' that saying would call 99.5% of you uppitity asses an Uncle Tom for VARIOUS REASONS and be correct. Don't think because you can 'say' the word and feel good about saying it that you AREN'T ONE EITHER...Anyone who didn't associate with ANYTHING BLACK PERIOD from not going to a black school, to a black church right down to where they shopped was considered one...Be VERY CAREFUL with that word. Ya'll playing with a word that you DON'T KNOW THE FULL MEANING OF AND LOOKING REALLY SILLY.


Don't like what I am saying? It must mean because it hits close to home! - You. 

How do you new fangled KNEEGROWS say it? Hit dog? That's your lil saying for it? 

A.K.A. The 'let's throw this shit on the wall and see if it sticks for the stupid people' elixir for when I just wanna be right saying.....You aren't btw....


Now I don't want to get too deep into the Grant Hill thing because most of the folks around me kinda backed off once their main voice box said he spoke to him and confirmed for their sanity (jokes) that he wasn't an Uncle Tom. Just like I told you motherfuckers before. What I will say is that line of thinking is OUT OF LINE. Dare I say that if we as a people EVER got 'dismissed' for having empathy, a personal connection to a story or any of that other stuff some of you are deeming 'cowardly' or at least negatively AND COMING TO THE DEFENSE OF SAID PERSON we would be OUTRAGED....

Oh wait...We have. My fault. Do I REALLY HAVE TO TELL YOU? Are you THAT DENSE? Do you wanna be 'right' so bad in holding on to this new found 'I am right I wanna win the argument' card that you CAN'T SEE WHAT I am alluding too? If that is the case...we can just stop here. Shit. I am wasting my time. 


Have a GREAT TIME THINKING YOU ARE ANY LESS INVESTED IN ANYTHING THAN US POOR PEOPLE WHO ARE 'MAKING PERSONAL CONNECTIONS' OR UNDERSTANDING WHY FOLKS GET UPSET AND RESPOND/REACT TO CERTAIN THINGS YOU UPPITY ASS KNEEGROWS.....


Matter of fact, here is what you do. The next time a black person does something foul/gets caught up in a situation/is a victim of their circumstance, color or whatnot that you can 'relate to', DON'T YOU SAY SHIT. You keep that mouth of yours shut because it is CLEARLY A SIGN OF WEAKNESS IN AN ARGUMENT AND YOUR OPINION IS NULL AND VOID. Your 'closeness' to the situation doesn't allow for you to have an opinion 'cause 'it' might be more about you than the story. Not that it BEING ABOUT YOU WOULD ONLY HELP or is bad but we are going by YOUR THEORY. ..YOUR STANDARDS.....OH NO....We are being irrational here so you can just throw that to the wayside. We are talking about winning an 'argument'/being on the right side of right here people! Fuck rationale! We all wanna be right and any cost right? Right! 





FOH....

How's that sound? You sit down and be a good lil nigger while we 'other folks' straighten it all out and tell you how to feel. You got it?  Do you understand me now? Do you see how STUPID THAT SHIT SOUNDS THAT YOU ARE RUNNING UP ON FOLKS WITH? 


Again...more tactics used on us that we now have decided that are okay to use on each other. It wasn't 'cool' when they did it to us and it isn't cool now.




Yeah...about as how stupid as you sound when you try to tell others to do it. Stop that. You are smarter than that. I don't need Bill Cosby to tell me that shit is dumb fam....


Aight...I think I am done..Maybe..I might go in on that third subject today after all but I need some food, relaxation and some R&R....If this is your LAST TRIP HERE/FOLLOWING ME ON TWITTER/FACEBOOK/WHATEVER.....See ya! I listen to you all the time and don't unfollow but I understand. When you are 'right', I take it in stride. Hope you will grant me the same latitude to at least disagree. 

Besides, I have seen ya'll go MUCH HARDER......
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