Since the highlights are always shown...lets take a look at a few of the Original Dream Team's games... Well some of them. In their entirety. Naw, I don't expect you to watch them ALL. Some interesting ones though.
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(Videos) Original Dream Team X Full Games (Well a few of them anyway)
Since the highlights are always shown...lets take a look at a few of the Original Dream Team's games... Well some of them. In their entirety. Naw, I don't expect you to watch them ALL. Some interesting ones though.
(Words) @KingJames decision to pass the ball to Udonis Haslem.
I don't have to put the play up. You all saw it. Wait...I might have to 'cause some of you seem to think he wasn't 'doubled'..smh He made the right play. Why UD though you say (more on that later) but lets not act like that play hasn't been asked of UD before and he hasn't delivered. @ making a jumper. This play was CALLED for him to do so. Remember when cats were saying 'they are missing Haslem'? That's why. He hustles, gets boards and...(gasps) draws 4/5's out to the foul line where he....you guessed it...hits jumpers.
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But...but...if you are a great player...you are SUPPOSED TO TAKE ALL THE CLUTCH SHOTS MR. BLOGGER... YOU HAVE TO BE THE MAN ALL THE TIME... .- You
WRONG. Everybody you are about to name, including arguably the greatest player ever knew it was a team game and they passed the ball according to the situation. Larry, Mike, Kobe, WHOEVER YOU WANT TO NAME WHO HAS CHIPS....gave that ball up. It is the VERY REASON THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOU HAVE CITED THAT OTHER 'GREATS' (wrongly might I add) don't have rings. "Cause they were too selfish. Sometimes it works and we get a GREAT MEMORY....sometimes they miss and the other team wins...Sometimes they play well...sometimes they don't... It happens. Ya'll out here forgetting though..
They didn't call Magic...'Tragic Johnson' for nothing... at that time..
Ya'll out here talking about 'Great players don't shrink in big moments'? Yeah? You sure plair?
This is LARRY LEGEND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. TOP 50 PLAYER. At the time, he was THE MAN TOO. Disregard his age. @ 24. He had turned their franchise around. He wasn't hurt. (That was the 90's...) He was healthy. Just didn't play well. Matter of fact, CORNBREAD PLAYED BETTER THAN HE DID that series. And Cornbread Maxwell is no D. Wade either. Good player but not D. WADE... But ya'll wanna say he 'never' pulled a Lebron. (as you like to call it.) They won btw... lol We aren't discounting Bird's chip though. (Nor should we. We'd be stupid to.)
Now I wasn't going to write this but I feel like I should now that I keep hearing folks whose OPINIONS I RESPECT outchea rewriting history to be right. Saying what the 'great ones' did when they were in these situations. Oh really now?
You can start at the 4:25 mark in case you have amnesia.. Scottie got the ball. Passed it to Mike. He got doubled...he sh....NO HE PASSED IT TO STEVE KERR...WHO THEN DID WHAT? Hit the shot. Arguably the greatest player of all time... last I checked.
Surely Kobe never passes right..for game winners? Derek Fisher is on line one...
Oh wait...let me show you Kobe doing pretty much what you guys wanted Lebron to do...and getting bailed out by BIG SHOT BOB... 'Cause they don't win the game if Horry doesn't hit that shot. But Kobe always makes the right play? (Pssst..Shaq's man (Scott Pollard) came to double. He should have passed the ball...) Not the right play to make that just happened to work out. Ya'll remember it how you want but that is what happened. They got lucky.
Now this next guy (who I bought up all over Twitter) used to get CRITICIZED LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER by the vast majority of you for being a gunner. He made CLUTCH SHOT AFTER CLUTCH SHOT IN SCENARIOS WITH DEFENDERS DRAPED ON HIM BUT YET, YOU HATED IT.
He is not a fundamental basketball player...
He doesn't make his teammates better....
He shoots when there are people open...
1:22 illustrates his game perfectly. It was basically 4-1... and he made the shot. I remember that shot. Folks dismissed it because it wasn't the 'proper' basketball play...
Which brings me back to my point. Ya'll have to make up your minds out here. Either you want folks to play fundamental basketball or hero ball. You get on this dude here for 'going for his' all the time....
...cause he wants to be elite (read: great) like his teammate. In order to do that, he has to take shots. Which in turn causes pressers like this..
Which one do you want? Lebron made the right play. Period. He forces that shots and you idiots get amnesia and make videos like this....
Criticism is pretty unfair out here on this topic right now. Broads who only wanna knock off players making 'game observations' about him not having a ring, or not being clutch. Niggas out here who couldn't make three straights layups out here talking about missed shots when the man has proven he can hit 'em at winning time..
Oh you miss 'Cleveland Lebron' you say?? Oh you mean the one who PASSED TO Andersen and 'em IN ADDITION to making clutch shots?
So to act like him 'passing' when the game is on the line or not is some SIN when it is his greatest gift is PRETTY STUPID TO ME. I see analyst, former players and all sounding like COMPLETE IDIOTS OUT HERE talking that 'I'd rather my best player just take the bad shot and I could live with it then pass it off' and then when a team's best player does JUST THAT, they have blasted him for it. Or...or...they don't subscribe to that theory at all UNLESS IT IS LEBRON JAMES involved in it.
When cats start criticizing a 'potential clutch moment' from a GLORIFIED PICKUP GAME, you know the hate has jumped the shark. For real. This shit is SILLY OUT HERE.
Some of you need to turn in your 'I'm a basketball expert' card in. @ all of this silly talk. I hope you NEVER coach anyone's kid out here 'cause some of you are the reason that some of these kids think they are so 'special' now. @ the mentality that some of them have.
Then ya'll will want to complain about the lack of the 'right' play being made by SO MANY OF THEM. Albeit, many of them who AREN'T AS TALENTED AS THE PLAYERS THEY ARE TRYING TO EMULATE (OR THE ACTIONS YOU WANT THEM TO EMULATE FROM SAID PLAYER) BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT. *
Look, if he makes a boneheaded play, LIGHT HIM UP.** No problem. You can't light him up for making the 'right basketball' play though. Sorry. Not if you 'know basketball' like you say you do. Not when you LIGHT UP OTHER BASKETBALL PLAYERS for playing a 'selfish' brand of basketball EVEN WHEN THEY ARE CLEARLY THE BEST PLAYER ON THEIR TEAM..(Monta Ellis...Brandon Jennings...etc...etc..)
Stop getting amnesia out here.. and stop rewriting history so you can 'be right'. @ what the 'greats did'.. Like Larry Legend, a great passer, NEVER PASSED THE BALL TO SOMEONE FOR THE GAME WINNER. Like Mike didn't.. (Maybe 1-7 Mike didn't..he didn't win a chip either.. That was the KNOCK! Maybe some of you are too young to remember that...)
I'll leave you with one of the many folks who benefited from a MJ kick out pass... (:32 second mark illustrates this)
*This is where cliches get you in trouble. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take' and every other one you folks want to suddenly remember..When someone doesn't take the shot you want them to, passes it to their open teammate and misses, NOW YA'LL WANT TO REMEMBER THESE SAYINGS. Where is all this chatter when the open teammate MAKES THE SHOTS THAT WIN CHIPS.. Oh that's right..It's a great play.
**Ya'll should be criticizing the person who used D. Wade as a decoy @ who called the play. Ya'll want it to be Lebron's fault though.. I know... Shane had the hot hand during the game, which is why he was in the corner..I got that. Not sure WHY your best rebounder (even though he has made that shot before), with NO BOSH is out there taking that shot.... Lets criticize that part of the equation. I think that is valid.
Michael Jordan’s eldest son leaves Central Florida | The Dagger: College Basketball Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Michael Jordan’s eldest son leaves Central Florida | The Dagger: College Basketball Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Good for him.
One of Michael Jordan's sons is Central Florida's leading scorer. The other is unexpectedly leaving the program.
Jeff Jordan, eldest son of the Chicago Bulls legend, will not return to the Knights this semester due to undisclosed "personal reasons," the school announced Saturday evening. Neither Jordan nor Central Florida coach Donnie Jones have gone into greater detail about why the point guard is leaving in the middle of his senior season.
"I thank coach Jones for the opportunity to be a part of the UCF basketball family," Jordan said in a news release. "I wish the team and coaching staff much continued success."
Jordan's decision to leave UCF appears to be the final chapter in the basketball career of a player who grabbed more headlines for his pedigree than his performance.
He turned down scholarship offers from several mid-major schools to walk on at Illinois out of high school. He eventually earned a scholarship and sporadic playing time as a result of his hustle but lacked the size or talent to consistently crack coach Bruce Weber's rotation. Then in May 2010, he opted to transfer to Central Florida in hopes of playing alongside his younger brother Marcus and receiving more consistent playing time.
The Jordan brothers produced an occasional highlight or two this season, but Jeff still didn't make much of an impact. He averaged 2.7 points, 1.8 assists and 1.0 steals in 13 games this season, numbers that had decreased of late since starting point guard A.J. Rompza was reinstated by the NCAA in late December.
The return of Rompza means it's unlikely UCF will miss Jordan much on the court barring injury. The trio of Rompza, Marcus Jordan and forward Keith Clanton hope to build on a solid 12-3 start and propel the Knights into contention for a Conference USA title and an NCAA tournament bid.
One of Michael Jordan's sons is Central Florida's leading scorer. The other is unexpectedly leaving the program.
Jeff Jordan, eldest son of the Chicago Bulls legend, will not return to the Knights this semester due to undisclosed "personal reasons," the school announced Saturday evening. Neither Jordan nor Central Florida coach Donnie Jones have gone into greater detail about why the point guard is leaving in the middle of his senior season.
"I thank coach Jones for the opportunity to be a part of the UCF basketball family," Jordan said in a news release. "I wish the team and coaching staff much continued success."
Jordan's decision to leave UCF appears to be the final chapter in the basketball career of a player who grabbed more headlines for his pedigree than his performance.
He turned down scholarship offers from several mid-major schools to walk on at Illinois out of high school. He eventually earned a scholarship and sporadic playing time as a result of his hustle but lacked the size or talent to consistently crack coach Bruce Weber's rotation. Then in May 2010, he opted to transfer to Central Florida in hopes of playing alongside his younger brother Marcus and receiving more consistent playing time.
The Jordan brothers produced an occasional highlight or two this season, but Jeff still didn't make much of an impact. He averaged 2.7 points, 1.8 assists and 1.0 steals in 13 games this season, numbers that had decreased of late since starting point guard A.J. Rompza was reinstated by the NCAA in late December.
The return of Rompza means it's unlikely UCF will miss Jordan much on the court barring injury. The trio of Rompza, Marcus Jordan and forward Keith Clanton hope to build on a solid 12-3 start and propel the Knights into contention for a Conference USA title and an NCAA tournament bid.
: For those of you who ‘hate’ the mythical status Mike Jordan enjoys....a quote.
I love how people think that anyone who is a fan of Mike's or thinks he is the GOAT don't think said person doesn't know Mike had bad games. Or made mistakes. I think this about covers that though...
I gotta assume this re-aired some time recently...MJ on the court with the Bobcats...
At this juncture, Jason Richardson was still with the team...He still does this from time to time. I was thinking that folks were talking about newer footage.Still a treat to see it again though and I would still hate to run into him at the local Rec....
Here is Gerald Wallace on him 'now'...(As in yesterday...)
"He's Mike. He's been kicking our [butts]. He still has it," forward Gerald Wallace said. "He doesn't have this quickness, but he can score, he's a shooter. The last thing to ever go is your jump shot and he has that."
Coach Silas...
He can still shoot the basketball unbelievable and he can move well. But at his age, he couldn't do it for a long period of time," Silas said, smiling. "But short period of time, he can get it done, yeah."
Here is Gerald Wallace on him 'now'...(As in yesterday...)
"He's Mike. He's been kicking our [butts]. He still has it," forward Gerald Wallace said. "He doesn't have this quickness, but he can score, he's a shooter. The last thing to ever go is your jump shot and he has that."
Coach Silas...
He can still shoot the basketball unbelievable and he can move well. But at his age, he couldn't do it for a long period of time," Silas said, smiling. "But short period of time, he can get it done, yeah."
I was wondering when someone was gonna do this...The Kobe/Michael Jordan debate...He is in the convo...
...but this might end that conversation. This chart doesn't even take into consideration the RULES that are now in place. You know the ones that some of you like to cite when we play pickup basketball about people like me 'not being able to touch you' or the VERY STIFF PENALTIES for flagrant fouls. Can you imagine if you weren't able to 'literally' touch Mike? If the Pistons literally weren't allowed to beat him up for years (and he STILL GOT HIS)? Flip side to that is imagining Kobe with teammates that would play like FOR HIM. Seeing what levels he might have gotten to had he been pushed by a Joe Dumars, Rock Richmond, Latrell Spreewell in his prime and the like. What he would have done with a Dennis Johnson dogging him. Sidney Moncrief all over him in a way that Bruce Bowen NEVER could do and watching him rise to the challenge. What would they have done with a 6'8 guard who can finish and shoot a three? Very good debate indeed.
Yeah...yeah..I hear you...you say you couldn't do it then without getting a call. That wasn't all the time and it SURELY wasn't during his first 7 in the League. Possibly longer....Still and all it is a great debate....
Thoughts?
Yeah...yeah..I hear you...you say you couldn't do it then without getting a call. That wasn't all the time and it SURELY wasn't during his first 7 in the League. Possibly longer....Still and all it is a great debate....
Thoughts?
Chuck and Michael Jordan picture....Dope pic.....@TurnerSportsEJ I am sure you can do SOMETHING with this on the show....
Hi Chuck- Lebron.....
Blogger's Note: Michael Jordan is my favorite player of all time. Chuck is in my Top 5 though so it isn't like I don't like him. At all. Please note that on AIR ERNIE!
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer....
Blogger's Note: Michael Jordan is my favorite player of all time. Chuck is in my Top 5 though so it isn't like I don't like him. At all. Please note that on AIR ERNIE!
Marcus Jordan with the dunk....Looking like Dad there a lil...
Gotta be the ultimate gift and curse....@ being his son. I don't care who he is though. This was a NICE DUNK. He could be BRAD JORDAN'S son..(If you don't know who Brad Jordan is and you call yourself a music/hip hop junkie.....)
Most read ESPN's web page so I don't normally swipe from there. This is interesting though...
In light of all of these 'veterans' (and novice ass fans) speaking/comparing what Lebron did with what 'wouldn't have happened with themselves', I thought this was pretty interesting. Not all the way valid (Then again, NEITHER IS THE COMPARISON BUT I DIGRESS..) but it brings up some very good points. I am surprised the writer didn't bring up Kobe basically FLAT OUT REFUSING TO PLAY FOR CHARLOTTE and LA subsequently trading away a VERY GOOD CENTER to get him. I can hear (and actually saw) some of the pleas copped with this article. 'He (The Lakers either) had NO WAY OF KNOWING HE WOULD TURN OUT TO BE WHAT HE IS...That's funny 'cause NOW MOFOS want to say 'Lets not speak in absolutes'. But it is okay to 'speculate' on what a team of Wade,Lebron and Bosh are going to turn out to be ABSOLUTELY, in particular when we want to talk about 'whose team it will be', it won't work and the like....Ya'll (everyone) are some funny motherfuckers when you want to prove your 'points'. Anyway, there is no backing down the following statements made by one Earvin Magic Johnson. Cop (pleas) away though. Act like he and Bird weren't basically the 'John Wall/Kevin Durant/etc/etc' of their day. Act like we only JUST STARTED TOUTING COLLEGE STARS as the 'next big thing'. I know that is what your uncle or father told you. Or maybe even what the 'vets' are saying now when they 'reminisce' about the 'old days'. It is IN PRINT THOUGH. Definitely fawned over. Definitely thought of as the 'next big thing' for the most part. In particular, Mr. Johnson as he was a 6'9 POINT GUARD. They didn't have those back then remember? So again, act like he wasn't 'expected' to come in and star. I dare you. Act like his team wasn't LOADED to begin with. You could make that case for Mike though. That is where the 'all the way valid' part of my statement comes in. Most of this article doesn't apply to Mike because truthfully, even as a fans, none of us thought he would be THIS GOOD. Not me. Not most true TAR HEEL FANS. We thought he would be freed up more and all but the 'LEGEND' take wasn't put on him....Still doesn't give him a pass on the statement to me like I have said before though. So I am not saying it is 'okay' that he spoke out on it either. I didn't forget how he wanted his GM gone. How Krause didn't fire him. How he bristled at coach after coach. Thought he TOO could do it alone. He had to be 'coaxed' into buying into a whole new system. Difference between him and Lebron is that he didn't have THE GUTS TO LEAVE. Yes, I said it. Sue me. Fuck all that 'I wanted to beat Larry and them..' talk. Back then, that would have been endorsement suicide. His jerseys would have had to been changed. Brand all messed up as he was the FIRST PERSON TO BECOME A 'BRAND'. Remember? He COULDN'T DO WHAT LEBRON did for that reason alone. It WOULD HAVE MESSED UP HIS BRAND because up until then, what he was doing HAD NOT BEEN DONE BY ANYONE on the scale he was doing. It can be done now because a firm would know how to cross market and change with the times. Back then? It would have taken MONTHS to redevelop a plan and get his brand back on track. No Internet. No cable access WORLDWIDE. None of that. Different time. Different era. He was told he needed a big man to win. At the time, THAT WAS TRUE. They didn't get one. We all know what happened now don't we? So 'conventional' wisdom doesn't always hold true. I would like to 'wait and see' about Wade, Lebron and Bosh because of things JUST LIKE THAT.
.If you haven't read what Magic said back in '91 about 'turning pro' (Titled appropriately, 'The Decision Was Beyond a Coin Flip'), lets get back in the time machine.....
I will post up most of the article. The rest is here...
TrueHoop reader Mike, however, takes special exception to the idea that Johnson would stick with a mediocre roster over playing with superstars. He e-mails:
As much as I admire and respect these players, it becomes hard to take them seriously when none of them had situations comparable to LeBron, and all of the them got to play with other great, Top-50 All-Time players. The quest to play with other elite talent is basically universal amongst stars, be it Wilt going to join Hal Greer and later Jerry West and Elgin Baylor or all the way up to Kobe openly flirting with the Bulls and Clippers and threatening trade demands until the Lakers acquired Pau Gasol.
The fact that LeBron simply exercised his rights as a free agent to leave Cleveland to do what countless other players have done, rather than demand trades or refuse to play for the team that drafted him, should not be held against him.
I'm not even a fan of LeBron, but at this point I think he's getting dumped on pretty unfairly.
And in the case of Magic Johnson, Mike has done his homework. He found a Mike Downey L.A. Times article from 1991:
Magic Johnson would have returned to Michigan State rather than play for the Chicago Bulls.
"I'd have stayed in school," he said here Tuesday, standing alone outside Gate 3 1/2 of Chicago Stadium, the house that could have been his. "A coin toss changed the course of my whole life." Chicago called heads in a 1979 coin flip with Los Angeles for the No. 1 pick in the NBA college draft. It came up tails.
Johnson signed with the Lakers after his sophomore year of college and proceeded to win five championships. The Bulls picked second, took UCLA's David Greenwood and have won no championships.
"I wouldn't have played here," Johnson said on the eve of Game 2 of the NBA finals between his team and the team that could have been his. "The only reason I came out was to play with Kareem and the Lakers."
Then Mike gets to comparing the Lakers who played with Johnson in his first seven years to the Cavaliers who played with James over the same period. Johnson's teammates, in aggregate, had:
* Two first team All-Rookie selections (Byron Scott, James Worthy)
* 11 All-Star appearances (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar seven times, Norm Nixon twice, Worthy, Jamaal Wilkes)
* Four All-NBA first team selections (Abdul-Jabbar)
* Two All-NBA second team selections (Abdul-Jabbar)
* Five All-Defensive first team selections (Michael Cooper three times, Abdul-Jabbar twice)
* Four All-Defensive second team selections (Cooper three times, Abdul-Jabbar once)
* One MVP Award (Abdul-Jabbar)
* In addition, Abdul-Jabbar, Worthy, Wilkes, Nixon, and Cooper all got votes for MVP at one point in time or the other during Magic's first seven years, and Cooper won defensive player of the year in Johnson's eighth year.
Mike does a similar analysis on James' Cavs' rosters:
* Zero first team All-Rookie Selections
* Two All-Star game appearances (Mo Williams, Zydrunas llgauskas)
* Zero All-NBA first team selection
* Zero All-NBA second team selections
* Zero All-Defensive first team selections
* One All-Defensive second team selection (Anderson Vareajo)
* Zero MVP Awards
Mike adds, in conclusion:
In order to have a situation even comparable to Magic's, LeBron would have needed to be drafted onto, say, Tim Duncan's team (to parallel Abdul-Jabbar), played the last six years with a prime Bruce Bowen (to parallel Michael Cooper), and had the Cavs draft Danny Granger in his third year (as a parallel to Worthy), and that's ignoring guys like Scott/Wilkes/McAdoo etc.
I mean, let's be real, if LeBron had been in a situation like that does anyone doubt that he would have stayed? That he would already have multiple titles and that we'd be talking about his place amongst the top 10-15 players of all-time instead of dumping on his competitive fire? Magic had it easy, which make his comments seem absolutely ridiculous.
I'll acknowledge there's a chicken and egg thing here. I can hear the argument now: If James had been a better leader, then the Cavaliers would have won more titles which would have earned his teammates more accolades. Even leaving aside entirely the reality that James has been about as productive as any player in NBA history, let's concede that point, and merely say: It's still not even close.
In fact, there's a debate to be had about whether James' current SuperFriends team in Miami is as good as the one Johnson played for. Is Dwyane Wade more valuable than Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? It's an insane question without a real answer, but I think we can agree there are strong cases to be made on both sides of the equation, and though Wade has a much better PER (around 30 last season) Abdul-Jabbar's was still insanely high in the mid-20s through Johnson's first seven seasons, and Abdul-Jabbar almost never missed a game.
What it really comes down to is that Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson can say they wouldn't have stooped to seeking out teammates as good as Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. But bear in mind they also never had to confront the reality of seven years with the kinds of rosters James played on in Cleveland.
My boy MJ to be on the cover of NBA2k11.
Finally. Some homage paid. Yes, I know due to Jordan's other contractual obligations he could not appear legally on games. Still and all, I have been waiting for this. That means he will be available as a legend to play with too. I will be getting this one for sure.
