Showing posts with label Georgia. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Georgia. Show all posts
(Words) So NOW everyone cares about killing...... With the way some of you talk though...
You have made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR YOU WILL KILL FOLKS.
You will kill 'em in the Mall.
You will kill 'em in the Club.
You will kill folks as they come up out their co-parent's house.
You will kill folks in light.
You will kill folks in the dark.
You will kill for folks for breathing wrong.
You will kill folks for being on the wrong side of town.
You will kill folks FOR RAPPING WACK LYRICS.
You will kill folks for 'hoes'. Even though they are hoes and they don't mean shit according to you anyway.
You will kill folks for LAND YOU DON'T EVEN OWN or even take care of.
You will kill just for sport.
Yet you want to know why 'No one will come and help you...'. I mean isn't it obvious? It has little to do with not caring.
The answer is simple and HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH CARING.
Some folks actually do CARE. They see the situations folks are coming from and want to help. Willing to help even. Even take some risks by those AROUND THAT PERSON who they want to help. What anyone with common sense is NOT GOING TO DO is help someone who is basically borderline threatening them EVERY OTHER SENTENCE with this 'kill talk'.
You see these folks also CARE ABOUT living. They may have OTHER FOLKS TO LIVE FOR THEMSELVES. Hell, they MAY JUST WANT TO LIVE AND TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES!
Who wants to help someone who has CLEARLY STATED THAT THEY WOULD SEE TO IT THAT 'LIVING' WOULDN'T BE AN OPTION depending on 'What kind of mood that person woke up in that morning"? That 'anyone' on the street can get it 'just because'?
Not anyone with any type of common sense if THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COME IN CONTACT WITH THEM. So folks DO CARE. It is the 'disregard for Life' being exhibited by SOME of the folks who want help that prevents the help.
If the 'don't care' label is going to be thrown around in this conversation, lets look at SOME of the folks asking for the help and the things I said up top. Those things are put up as a shield by SOME of those folks all the time. Unprovoked. As in, NOBODY WAS TALKING TOUGH but that information gets VOLUNTEERED in normal conversation. Again, I ask...Who in their right mind is going to help anyone talking to them like that?
So I hesitate to say that 'Nobody cares' about the plight of those suffering in certain areas WHEN I hear SOME OF THOSE SAME FOLKS say these things. I hesitate to 'feel remorse' for folks who 'get caught up in shit' BY THEIR OWN CHOOSING 'cause they are living the Life of a Killer. I mean we aren't talking about twelve year olds here. We are talking GROWN ASS ADULTS. Who know better.
Now if you have done some things in the past with the understanding that you did them and you can't take them back but have CHANGED your ways? That is something that I would overlook. I would help. I would be understanding that you did what you did, you aren't proud of it but you aren't 'dwelling' on it either.
I am sure at this point you are wondering....
"Where is this coming from? Let me tell you...."
The Troy Davis case.
All this week, I watched folks rally around this man. The 'underlying' premise being that folks recanted statements and THUS he is magically innocent OR HE DESERVED A NEW TRIAL. I actually happen to agree with the latter BUT that doesn't mean I am willing to overlook the OTHER FACTS of his story like some of you are. Yes, you are overlooking them. You brush them to the side. Which isn't fair. This situation isn't being discussed in its sum. It is being discussed in a vacuum. All you folks want to talk about is the 'trial'.
It seems that some of you think that he should have been 'freed'. As in walk out of the jail 'free'. All because he is Black, the case was in Georgia and you don't like the cops. Flawed thinking. I don't KNOW whether he killed the cop or not but I DO KNOW (by his own admission) that he was involved in the commission of a crime THAT CULMINATED IN THE SHOOTING OF THE COP. I'm no 'cop lover' but I am not blinded by my 'non love' for 'em either. I am no lover of folks WHO KILL PEOPLE or run arouund beating up homeless folks either. Call it what you want but I CALL IT FUCKING LOVING TO LIVE. Anything else, AND I DO MEAN ANYTHING ELSE, is pretty fucking stupid to me. @ LOOKING AT LIFE ANY OTHER WAY.*
You see, if someone hadn't sold Troy Davis that 'way of thinking' that I outlined up top, maybe he wouldn't have been out there beating up a homeless man. (Which he admitted to. Do the RESEARCH and stop listening to your favorite local tough guy, Internet funny man or whatever..). Maybe...just maybe....that 'nickname' that he had, he wouldn't have been out in the World trying to show folks he earned it. He was caught up in his way of thinking and ultimately, the folks with the Power did away with him.
At some point, you have to take responsibility for the situations that you put yourself in. HE PUT HIMSELF IN THAT SITUATION. No other way to say it. Just like he did at the party around the same time @ his other gun charge. Was he 19 at the time? YES. He was young. That argument is played out though and here is why.
You have told us as much...you say it everyday..
There are MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of 19 year olds who have NOT MADE THAT SAME DECISION so miss me with the 'he was young' thing. EVERYONE ISN'T OUT HERE DOING THAT and you know it. You commonly refer to them as 'lames'/fakes/frauds/and the like so don't beg off on the notion that over 85% (just throwing a number out there but you get the point..) of the population does not partake in those activities at that age. Yes, even the ones from 'your hood/block/whatever'. Again, you tell us on every social network, in every rap you write, or at every party there are fakes and suckers out here. They can't all be one person so thus the conclusion is very few folks are out here 'doing it like that'. Again, you have admitted as much with the 'lame/suckers/fakes' talk you do. So now what is your excuse? If everyone isn't 'built for that Life' and is frauding then EVERYBODY can't be doing. Not a hard concept to grasp.
KARMA:
It is funny that some of you same folks THAT SCREAM THAT KARMA shit are afraid to say it was the 'case' with Troy Davis. Oh but you will say the Father/Mother of your child has been the recipient of Karma or that homie that got shot by your man got what Karma had for him. Ya'll are funny for that one. So because this is a 'sensitive' case though, anyone even suggesting that is wrong though? Real cute. See the paragraph above for why I am suggesting it. The path he was on man....the path he was on...I know ya'll want folks to win and all but damm...
No one should be killed. It is inhumane:
If you subscribe to ANYTHING THAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS POST, your opinion is null and void. I normally don't like to say that but in this case it just is. You can't be out here condoning random acts of violence and then getting on the government for executing folks if you are down with YOUR OWN FOLKS KILLING EACH OTHER IN THE STREETS EVERYDAY FOR BULLSHIT. Respect all killers if you respect killers dammit. Be consistent. What is that bullshit paint brush of a saying some of ya'll like to run around saying and applying to ALL YOUR MISGIVINGS:
"Stand for something or fall for anything"
Then stand for that and respect the fact that they killed him. If that is what you stand for...(I don't stand for that but I'm not the one out here claiming to. That would be you.) I digress though.....I will let you continue to talk out of both sides of your mouth. Just know I see that you are contradicting the FUCK OUTTA YOURSELF.
I know I am being harsh but the facts of the matter won't distract me from the underlying truths. Troy Davis chose a path. Later on in Life, after incarceration, he decided that maybe that wasn't such a good idea. I commend him for it. He converted his life. It was too late though. The law that executed him wasn't MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR HIM. It existed. It was KNOWN. Trust me it was KNOWN. Top that off with the fact that he lives IN FUCKING GEORGIA. The state with the damm Confederate Flag in its STATE'S FLAG. Fair shake? You would be lucky to GET A SHAKE in that State. Of any kind. Some of you who live up North REALLY DON'T GET THE CLIMATE and some of you who have transplanted in say the last 10-20 years DON'T EITHER. It is still bad but back then? Sheit. Black on Black or not, they were locking up BLACK FOLKS JUST FOR BEING BLACK. A crime scene with a dead cop WAS NOT WHERE YOU WANTED TO BE. Innocent or not. So yeah ya'll can act like the time period didn't have a factor in that if you like but at that time IF YOU WERE BLACK YOU NEEDED TO BE DOING IT BIGGER AND BETTER than someone who was white. You DAMM SURE didn't want to be out there involving yourself with the murder of a cop. Whether you did it or not. Keep ignoring that fact though....
Maybe some youth will see this case and can be saved. Too bad some of you out here are not bringing up the fact that he made those choices and this was the result is not what the youth will see. Ya'll are going to make him a martyr and the cycle will continue. Bravo ladies and gentleman. Bravo. I am sure 'Whitey' is quite proud too. Probably sitting there saying...
"We won't have to worry about them much longer. They majority of them seem to think certain lifestyles are a right and with that thinking along with these laws we have in place, we can CONTINUE TO HEM THEM UP in bullshit. There seems to be a strong sect amongst them that 'dictates' the 'tough guy image'. It plays RIGHT INTO OUR HANDS. The gun laws. The laws structured to prosecute violent crimes, MOST OF WHICH THEY WILL COMMIT AGAINST THEMSELVES, and their unwillingness to 'snitch on each other' ARE ALL THINGS WE CAN USE AGAINST THEM AS WE TAKE OVER. They think 'they aren't getting a fair shake' now? Ha. Wait 'till we REALLY PUT THE SCREWS TO THEM and take their beliefs and use them against them. This is just the beginning. "
You think they aren't? You are a fool. I'd like to welcome THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN CLEARING LIVING UNDER A FUCKING ROCK for the vast majority of your lives. @ the injustices of the court system. I am beginning to think that some of you truly can't 'FATHOM' it. You thought it was just 'your boys' or your town. No. It is all over. Welcome to America. The World is bigger than your block fam. It isn't just in the history books. It is currently happening. That crime was committed in 1989 but for some of you, you finally got to see some REALLY FOUL SHIT done by some foul people all the around. (Whispers) It isn't the first time it has happened. Maybe white people were right. Want to hide something from black folks. Put it in a book. Or in the form of 'school'. Clearly, some of you (even folks my age) had the info 'hidden' from you. Shame on you for that too.
Oh you thought I was saying what happened at the 'end' of Troy's ordeal was 'fair'? No nigga. I NEVER SAID THAT. I said he had some choices to make and he made the wrong ones. I said that I would hope someone would learn from these choices THROUGH TROY'S ORDEAL so that they wouldn't have to suffer through any FURTHER INJUSTICES. "Cause once you are in that system, there isn't much folks can do for you. Sure we can riot, protest, get on Twitter and get our activism on. In the end though, NOTHING CAN BE DONE. You see Troy is gone right? Okay then. Plenty of factors that led up to it, including some of HIS DECISIONS. He should have been given a trial. Lots of 'shouldas' in this case. Like...say for instance...THE PERSON WHO DID SHOOT THE COP NOT LETTING HIS BOY TAKE THE FALL FOR IT...Too much like right though...Oh wait, we are talking about 'right' here. We want what is 'right' for Troy from our 'corrupt' government but we don't have the NUTS TO DEMAND THAT SAME QUALITY IN TROY'S BOYS..(Somebody shot the cop. He didn't shoot himself.) Riiiightt.......
The questions remain though:
What are you folks going to do about it?
Are you going to vote now?
Are you going to TELL YOUR CHILDREN that the way of the World is already designed for them to fail so they shouldn't HELP THE PROCESS WITH THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE?
Are you going to tell folks the truth about this situation or are you going to leave out/gloss over the responsibilities folks have for putting themselves in certain situations?
Are you going to stay out of Georgia? Move out of Georgia if you live there?
Are you going to continue down the path that puts you in the judicial system and at the mercy of the Prosecution?
Are you going to continue to go 'get your goons' every time someone steps on your damm shoes in the club, eyeballs your ex girlfriend or is from another part of town? If you are going to continue to do this shit, are you going to expect someone in power to step to the plate when they want to execute you when a 'simple lesson' turns into a murder?
Are you going to beat on homeless people and still think 'Oh it is no big deal 'cause they are homeless...this won't turn into anything else big..Light charges....'?
These and many more questions are the ones I have for some of you. My main questions for you today though are these though The others are important but I know the answers to most of them. No. You will continue to do nigga shit and then expect for the Nigga Angel to somehow send you some help after you get caught up....:
ARE YOU STILL AS MAD AS YOU WERE THAT NIGHT TROY WAS EXECUTED?
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
*Matter of fact, if I have offended you by saying that, let me know. We can cut each other off right now. Never have to speak to each other again in Life. For real. I won't talk to you. You don't talk to me. I don't HELP YOU and since I don't accept help but from a few folks ANYWAY, you will continue not to help me. Cool? Good.
You will kill 'em in the Mall.
You will kill 'em in the Club.
You will kill folks as they come up out their co-parent's house.
You will kill folks in light.
You will kill folks in the dark.
You will kill for folks for breathing wrong.
You will kill folks for being on the wrong side of town.
You will kill folks FOR RAPPING WACK LYRICS.
You will kill folks for 'hoes'. Even though they are hoes and they don't mean shit according to you anyway.
You will kill folks for LAND YOU DON'T EVEN OWN or even take care of.
You will kill just for sport.
Yet you want to know why 'No one will come and help you...'. I mean isn't it obvious? It has little to do with not caring.
The answer is simple and HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH CARING.
Some folks actually do CARE. They see the situations folks are coming from and want to help. Willing to help even. Even take some risks by those AROUND THAT PERSON who they want to help. What anyone with common sense is NOT GOING TO DO is help someone who is basically borderline threatening them EVERY OTHER SENTENCE with this 'kill talk'.
You see these folks also CARE ABOUT living. They may have OTHER FOLKS TO LIVE FOR THEMSELVES. Hell, they MAY JUST WANT TO LIVE AND TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES!
Who wants to help someone who has CLEARLY STATED THAT THEY WOULD SEE TO IT THAT 'LIVING' WOULDN'T BE AN OPTION depending on 'What kind of mood that person woke up in that morning"? That 'anyone' on the street can get it 'just because'?
Not anyone with any type of common sense if THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COME IN CONTACT WITH THEM. So folks DO CARE. It is the 'disregard for Life' being exhibited by SOME of the folks who want help that prevents the help.
If the 'don't care' label is going to be thrown around in this conversation, lets look at SOME of the folks asking for the help and the things I said up top. Those things are put up as a shield by SOME of those folks all the time. Unprovoked. As in, NOBODY WAS TALKING TOUGH but that information gets VOLUNTEERED in normal conversation. Again, I ask...Who in their right mind is going to help anyone talking to them like that?
So I hesitate to say that 'Nobody cares' about the plight of those suffering in certain areas WHEN I hear SOME OF THOSE SAME FOLKS say these things. I hesitate to 'feel remorse' for folks who 'get caught up in shit' BY THEIR OWN CHOOSING 'cause they are living the Life of a Killer. I mean we aren't talking about twelve year olds here. We are talking GROWN ASS ADULTS. Who know better.
Now if you have done some things in the past with the understanding that you did them and you can't take them back but have CHANGED your ways? That is something that I would overlook. I would help. I would be understanding that you did what you did, you aren't proud of it but you aren't 'dwelling' on it either.
I am sure at this point you are wondering....
"Where is this coming from? Let me tell you...."
The Troy Davis case.
All this week, I watched folks rally around this man. The 'underlying' premise being that folks recanted statements and THUS he is magically innocent OR HE DESERVED A NEW TRIAL. I actually happen to agree with the latter BUT that doesn't mean I am willing to overlook the OTHER FACTS of his story like some of you are. Yes, you are overlooking them. You brush them to the side. Which isn't fair. This situation isn't being discussed in its sum. It is being discussed in a vacuum. All you folks want to talk about is the 'trial'.
It seems that some of you think that he should have been 'freed'. As in walk out of the jail 'free'. All because he is Black, the case was in Georgia and you don't like the cops. Flawed thinking. I don't KNOW whether he killed the cop or not but I DO KNOW (by his own admission) that he was involved in the commission of a crime THAT CULMINATED IN THE SHOOTING OF THE COP. I'm no 'cop lover' but I am not blinded by my 'non love' for 'em either. I am no lover of folks WHO KILL PEOPLE or run arouund beating up homeless folks either. Call it what you want but I CALL IT FUCKING LOVING TO LIVE. Anything else, AND I DO MEAN ANYTHING ELSE, is pretty fucking stupid to me. @ LOOKING AT LIFE ANY OTHER WAY.*
You see, if someone hadn't sold Troy Davis that 'way of thinking' that I outlined up top, maybe he wouldn't have been out there beating up a homeless man. (Which he admitted to. Do the RESEARCH and stop listening to your favorite local tough guy, Internet funny man or whatever..). Maybe...just maybe....that 'nickname' that he had, he wouldn't have been out in the World trying to show folks he earned it. He was caught up in his way of thinking and ultimately, the folks with the Power did away with him.
At some point, you have to take responsibility for the situations that you put yourself in. HE PUT HIMSELF IN THAT SITUATION. No other way to say it. Just like he did at the party around the same time @ his other gun charge. Was he 19 at the time? YES. He was young. That argument is played out though and here is why.
You have told us as much...you say it everyday..
There are MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of 19 year olds who have NOT MADE THAT SAME DECISION so miss me with the 'he was young' thing. EVERYONE ISN'T OUT HERE DOING THAT and you know it. You commonly refer to them as 'lames'/fakes/frauds/and the like so don't beg off on the notion that over 85% (just throwing a number out there but you get the point..) of the population does not partake in those activities at that age. Yes, even the ones from 'your hood/block/whatever'. Again, you tell us on every social network, in every rap you write, or at every party there are fakes and suckers out here. They can't all be one person so thus the conclusion is very few folks are out here 'doing it like that'. Again, you have admitted as much with the 'lame/suckers/fakes' talk you do. So now what is your excuse? If everyone isn't 'built for that Life' and is frauding then EVERYBODY can't be doing. Not a hard concept to grasp.
KARMA:
It is funny that some of you same folks THAT SCREAM THAT KARMA shit are afraid to say it was the 'case' with Troy Davis. Oh but you will say the Father/Mother of your child has been the recipient of Karma or that homie that got shot by your man got what Karma had for him. Ya'll are funny for that one. So because this is a 'sensitive' case though, anyone even suggesting that is wrong though? Real cute. See the paragraph above for why I am suggesting it. The path he was on man....the path he was on...I know ya'll want folks to win and all but damm...
No one should be killed. It is inhumane:
If you subscribe to ANYTHING THAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS POST, your opinion is null and void. I normally don't like to say that but in this case it just is. You can't be out here condoning random acts of violence and then getting on the government for executing folks if you are down with YOUR OWN FOLKS KILLING EACH OTHER IN THE STREETS EVERYDAY FOR BULLSHIT. Respect all killers if you respect killers dammit. Be consistent. What is that bullshit paint brush of a saying some of ya'll like to run around saying and applying to ALL YOUR MISGIVINGS:
"Stand for something or fall for anything"
Then stand for that and respect the fact that they killed him. If that is what you stand for...(I don't stand for that but I'm not the one out here claiming to. That would be you.) I digress though.....I will let you continue to talk out of both sides of your mouth. Just know I see that you are contradicting the FUCK OUTTA YOURSELF.
I know I am being harsh but the facts of the matter won't distract me from the underlying truths. Troy Davis chose a path. Later on in Life, after incarceration, he decided that maybe that wasn't such a good idea. I commend him for it. He converted his life. It was too late though. The law that executed him wasn't MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR HIM. It existed. It was KNOWN. Trust me it was KNOWN. Top that off with the fact that he lives IN FUCKING GEORGIA. The state with the damm Confederate Flag in its STATE'S FLAG. Fair shake? You would be lucky to GET A SHAKE in that State. Of any kind. Some of you who live up North REALLY DON'T GET THE CLIMATE and some of you who have transplanted in say the last 10-20 years DON'T EITHER. It is still bad but back then? Sheit. Black on Black or not, they were locking up BLACK FOLKS JUST FOR BEING BLACK. A crime scene with a dead cop WAS NOT WHERE YOU WANTED TO BE. Innocent or not. So yeah ya'll can act like the time period didn't have a factor in that if you like but at that time IF YOU WERE BLACK YOU NEEDED TO BE DOING IT BIGGER AND BETTER than someone who was white. You DAMM SURE didn't want to be out there involving yourself with the murder of a cop. Whether you did it or not. Keep ignoring that fact though....
Maybe some youth will see this case and can be saved. Too bad some of you out here are not bringing up the fact that he made those choices and this was the result is not what the youth will see. Ya'll are going to make him a martyr and the cycle will continue. Bravo ladies and gentleman. Bravo. I am sure 'Whitey' is quite proud too. Probably sitting there saying...
"We won't have to worry about them much longer. They majority of them seem to think certain lifestyles are a right and with that thinking along with these laws we have in place, we can CONTINUE TO HEM THEM UP in bullshit. There seems to be a strong sect amongst them that 'dictates' the 'tough guy image'. It plays RIGHT INTO OUR HANDS. The gun laws. The laws structured to prosecute violent crimes, MOST OF WHICH THEY WILL COMMIT AGAINST THEMSELVES, and their unwillingness to 'snitch on each other' ARE ALL THINGS WE CAN USE AGAINST THEM AS WE TAKE OVER. They think 'they aren't getting a fair shake' now? Ha. Wait 'till we REALLY PUT THE SCREWS TO THEM and take their beliefs and use them against them. This is just the beginning. "
You think they aren't? You are a fool. I'd like to welcome THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN CLEARING LIVING UNDER A FUCKING ROCK for the vast majority of your lives. @ the injustices of the court system. I am beginning to think that some of you truly can't 'FATHOM' it. You thought it was just 'your boys' or your town. No. It is all over. Welcome to America. The World is bigger than your block fam. It isn't just in the history books. It is currently happening. That crime was committed in 1989 but for some of you, you finally got to see some REALLY FOUL SHIT done by some foul people all the around. (Whispers) It isn't the first time it has happened. Maybe white people were right. Want to hide something from black folks. Put it in a book. Or in the form of 'school'. Clearly, some of you (even folks my age) had the info 'hidden' from you. Shame on you for that too.
Oh you thought I was saying what happened at the 'end' of Troy's ordeal was 'fair'? No nigga. I NEVER SAID THAT. I said he had some choices to make and he made the wrong ones. I said that I would hope someone would learn from these choices THROUGH TROY'S ORDEAL so that they wouldn't have to suffer through any FURTHER INJUSTICES. "Cause once you are in that system, there isn't much folks can do for you. Sure we can riot, protest, get on Twitter and get our activism on. In the end though, NOTHING CAN BE DONE. You see Troy is gone right? Okay then. Plenty of factors that led up to it, including some of HIS DECISIONS. He should have been given a trial. Lots of 'shouldas' in this case. Like...say for instance...THE PERSON WHO DID SHOOT THE COP NOT LETTING HIS BOY TAKE THE FALL FOR IT...Too much like right though...Oh wait, we are talking about 'right' here. We want what is 'right' for Troy from our 'corrupt' government but we don't have the NUTS TO DEMAND THAT SAME QUALITY IN TROY'S BOYS..(Somebody shot the cop. He didn't shoot himself.) Riiiightt.......
The questions remain though:
What are you folks going to do about it?
Are you going to vote now?
Are you going to TELL YOUR CHILDREN that the way of the World is already designed for them to fail so they shouldn't HELP THE PROCESS WITH THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE?
Are you going to tell folks the truth about this situation or are you going to leave out/gloss over the responsibilities folks have for putting themselves in certain situations?
Are you going to stay out of Georgia? Move out of Georgia if you live there?
Are you going to continue down the path that puts you in the judicial system and at the mercy of the Prosecution?
Are you going to continue to go 'get your goons' every time someone steps on your damm shoes in the club, eyeballs your ex girlfriend or is from another part of town? If you are going to continue to do this shit, are you going to expect someone in power to step to the plate when they want to execute you when a 'simple lesson' turns into a murder?
Are you going to beat on homeless people and still think 'Oh it is no big deal 'cause they are homeless...this won't turn into anything else big..Light charges....'?
These and many more questions are the ones I have for some of you. My main questions for you today though are these though The others are important but I know the answers to most of them. No. You will continue to do nigga shit and then expect for the Nigga Angel to somehow send you some help after you get caught up....:
ARE YOU STILL AS MAD AS YOU WERE THAT NIGHT TROY WAS EXECUTED?
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
*Matter of fact, if I have offended you by saying that, let me know. We can cut each other off right now. Never have to speak to each other again in Life. For real. I won't talk to you. You don't talk to me. I don't HELP YOU and since I don't accept help but from a few folks ANYWAY, you will continue not to help me. Cool? Good.
georgia.gov - Execution Set for Troy Anthony Davis, Convicted of 1989 Murder of Savannah Police Officer
georgia.gov - Execution Set for Troy Anthony Davis, Convicted of 1989 Murder of Savannah Police Officer
Here is something else for you to chew on while you are 'reading'.... Lots of reading but hey....
https://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR51/023/2007/en/909e39f7-d3b6-11dd-a329-2f46302a8cc6/amr510232007en.html
This is interesting....To me anyway. You know how I am though. I don't like to blindly say 'Free" anyone or even ask for clemency just because 'I should'. I find those causes to be counterproductive. . I like THIS THING CALLED THE FACTS over 'emotion' or 'obligation'. Unfortunately, this is a government document so that doesn't GUARANTEE that either but it does present another side. Some folks have only heard this story via word of mouth. Maybe this will help...
I still think some sorta trial with today's technology (if evidence were available to be sampled using said technology) is in order but......
Scheduled Execution
On September 6, 2011, the Superior Court of Chatham County filed an order, setting the seven-day window in which the execution of Troy Anthony Davis may occur to begin at noon on September 21, 2011, and ending seven days later at noon on September 28, 2011. The Commissioner of the Department of Corrections then set the specific date and time for the execution as 7:00 pm on September 21, 2011. Davis has concluded his direct appeal proceedings and his state and federal habeas corpus proceedings.
Davis’ Crimes
At approximately 1:00 a.m. on Saturday, August 19, 1989, officers of the Savannah Police Department responded to a call of “an officer down” at the Greyhound bus station. (T. 759)[1]. Officers found Mark MacPhail, a 27 year-old Savannah police officer, lying face down in the parking lot of the Burger King restaurant next to the bus station. (T. 759). Officer MacPhail’s mouth was filled with blood and bits of his teeth were on the sidewalk. As he began administering CPR to the victim, Officer Owens noticed that the victim’s firearm was still snapped into his holster. (T. 761).
Larry Young, who was present at the scene, told police that between midnight and 1:00 a.m. he had walked from the Burger King parking lot to the convenience store down the block to purchase beer. (T. 797-798). Sylvester “Red” Coles saw Young leave the pool hall next door and began following Young demanding a beer. (T. 798). Coles continued to harass Mr. Young all the way back to the Burger King. (T. 799). When Young arrived at the parking lot, Harriet Murray was sitting on a low wall by the restaurant. Davis and Daryl Collins, who had taken a shortcut to the parking lot, came out from behind the bank and surrounded Mr. Young. (T. 799). Mr. Coles, who was facing Mr. Young, told him not to walk away “cause you don’t know me, I’ll shoot you,” and began digging in his pants. (T. 845). Ms. Murray ran to the back door of the Burger King, which was locked. (T. 799). Davis, who was behind Young and to his right, blind-sided him, striking him on the side of the face with a snub-nosed pistol, inflicting a severe head injury. Mr. Young began to bleed profusely, and he stumbled to a van parked in front of the Burger King drive-in window, asking the occupants for help. (T. 803). When the driver did not respond, he went to the drive-in window, but the manager shut it in his face. (T. 803, 915).
In response to the disturbance in the parking lot, Officer MacPhail, who was working as a security guard at the restaurant, walked rapidly from behind the bus station, with his nightstick in his hand and ordered the three men to halt. (T. 849). Mr. Collins and Davis fled, and Officer MacPhail ran past Sylvester Coles in pursuit of Davis. (T. 851). Davis looked over his shoulder, and when the officer was five to six feet away, shot him. Officer MacPhail fell to the ground, and Davis walked towards him and shot him again while he was on the ground. (T. 850). One eyewitness testified that Davis was smiling at the time. (T. 851). The victim died of gunshot wounds before help arrived.
Davis fled to Atlanta the following day and surrendered to authorities on August 23, 1989.
Pursuant to an investigation, police learned that on the night of the killing, Davis had attended a party on Cloverdale Drive in a subdivision near Savannah. (T. 1115-1116). During the party, Davis, annoyed that some girls ignored him, told several of his friends something about “burning them.” (T. 146). Davis then walked around saying, “I feel like doing something, anything.” (T. 1464). When Michael Cooper and his friends were leaving the party, Davis was standing out front. (T. 1120). Michael Cooper was in the front passenger seat, and as the car pulled away, several of the men in the car leaned out the window shouting and throwing things. (T. 1120, 1186). Davis shot at the car from a couple of hundred feet away and the bullet shattered the back windshield and lodged in Michael Cooper’s right jaw. (T. 1186). Cooper was treated at the hospital and released and Cooper’s injury formed the basis for Count IV of Davis’ indictment. The shooting incident took place approximately one hour before Officer MacPhail was shot.
Shortly after Michael Cooper was shot, Eric Ellison and D.D. Collins picked up Davis in Cloverdale and took him to Brown’s Pool Hall in Savannah. Red Coles, wearing a yellow t-shirt, was already at the pool hall.
A ballistics expert testified that the bullet recovered from MacPhail’s body was of the same type and was possibly fired from the same weapon as used in the Cooper shooting. (T. 1292). Four .38 special casings recovered at Cloverdale, where Michael Cooper was wounded, were fired from the same gun as casings found at the scene of Officer MacPhail’s murder. (T. 1292).
At trial, Kevin McQueen, who was at the Chatham City Jail with Davis, testified that Davis told him there had been a party in Cloverdale on the night of the victim’s murder; Davis had argued with some men and there was an exchange of gunfire. (T. 1230-1231). Davis told McQueen he did some of the shooting. (T. 1231). After the party, Davis went to a girlfriend’s house and intended to eat breakfast at Burger King. Davis stated that he was with a friend and they ran into a guy who “owed money to buy dope.” (T. 1231). There was a fight, Officer MacPhail appeared, and Davis shot him in the face. As Officer MacPhail attempted to get up, Davis shot him again, because he was afraid MacPhail had seen him that night at Cloverdale. (T. 1232). Davis also told McQueen that he was on his way out of town to Atlanta. (T. 1232).
Jeffrey Lapp testified that Davis told him he did the shooting at Burger King, but that it was self-defense. (T. 1249-1252). Mr. Lapp noted that Davis’ street name was RAH, standing for “Rough As Hell.” (T. 1257).
Red Coles identified Davis as the perpetrator of Officer MacPhail’s murder, as did numerous other eyewitnesses, including Harriet Murray, Dorothy Ferrell, Daryl Collins, Antoine Williams, Steven Sanders and Larry Young.
Davis testified at trial. Davis admitted that he was present at the scene of the shooting on the night in question, but denied that he was involved in the shooting of Cooper or the victim or the assault on Larry Young.
State Habeas Corpus Petition (1994-2001)
Davis, represented by the Georgia Resource Center, filed a petition for a writ of habeas corpus in the Superior Court of Butts County, Georgia on March 15, 1994. An evidentiary hearing was held on December 16, 1996.
On September 9, 1997, the state habeas corpus court denied Davis state habeas corpus relief, including his claim that he was not the shooter. (State habeas corpus order of September 5, 1997, denying relief, page 41). The Georgia Supreme Court affirmed the denial of state habeas corpus relief on November 13, 2000. Davis v. Turpin, 273 Ga. 244, 539 S.E.2d 129 (2000).
Davis then filed a petition for writ of certiorari in the United States Supreme Court, which was denied on October 1, 2001. Davis v. Turpin, 534 U.S. 842, 122 S.Ct. 100 (2001).
In re Davis, 565 F.3d at 824.
In re: Davis, Case No. CV409-130.
Thereafter, Davis filed a petition for writ of certiorari in the United States Supreme Court on January 21, 2011, which was denied on March 28, 2011.
Here is something else for you to chew on while you are 'reading'.... Lots of reading but hey....
https://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR51/023/2007/en/909e39f7-d3b6-11dd-a329-2f46302a8cc6/amr510232007en.html
This is interesting....To me anyway. You know how I am though. I don't like to blindly say 'Free" anyone or even ask for clemency just because 'I should'. I find those causes to be counterproductive. . I like THIS THING CALLED THE FACTS over 'emotion' or 'obligation'. Unfortunately, this is a government document so that doesn't GUARANTEE that either but it does present another side. Some folks have only heard this story via word of mouth. Maybe this will help...
I still think some sorta trial with today's technology (if evidence were available to be sampled using said technology) is in order but......
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PRESS ADVISORY
Wednesday, September 7, 2011
Execution Set for Troy Anthony Davis, Convicted of 1989 Murder of Savannah Police Officer
Georgia Attorney General Sam Olens offers the following information in the case against Troy Anthony Davis, who is currently scheduled to be executed on September 21, 2011 at 7:00 p.m.Scheduled Execution
On September 6, 2011, the Superior Court of Chatham County filed an order, setting the seven-day window in which the execution of Troy Anthony Davis may occur to begin at noon on September 21, 2011, and ending seven days later at noon on September 28, 2011. The Commissioner of the Department of Corrections then set the specific date and time for the execution as 7:00 pm on September 21, 2011. Davis has concluded his direct appeal proceedings and his state and federal habeas corpus proceedings.
Davis’ Crimes
At approximately 1:00 a.m. on Saturday, August 19, 1989, officers of the Savannah Police Department responded to a call of “an officer down” at the Greyhound bus station. (T. 759)[1]. Officers found Mark MacPhail, a 27 year-old Savannah police officer, lying face down in the parking lot of the Burger King restaurant next to the bus station. (T. 759). Officer MacPhail’s mouth was filled with blood and bits of his teeth were on the sidewalk. As he began administering CPR to the victim, Officer Owens noticed that the victim’s firearm was still snapped into his holster. (T. 761).
Larry Young, who was present at the scene, told police that between midnight and 1:00 a.m. he had walked from the Burger King parking lot to the convenience store down the block to purchase beer. (T. 797-798). Sylvester “Red” Coles saw Young leave the pool hall next door and began following Young demanding a beer. (T. 798). Coles continued to harass Mr. Young all the way back to the Burger King. (T. 799). When Young arrived at the parking lot, Harriet Murray was sitting on a low wall by the restaurant. Davis and Daryl Collins, who had taken a shortcut to the parking lot, came out from behind the bank and surrounded Mr. Young. (T. 799). Mr. Coles, who was facing Mr. Young, told him not to walk away “cause you don’t know me, I’ll shoot you,” and began digging in his pants. (T. 845). Ms. Murray ran to the back door of the Burger King, which was locked. (T. 799). Davis, who was behind Young and to his right, blind-sided him, striking him on the side of the face with a snub-nosed pistol, inflicting a severe head injury. Mr. Young began to bleed profusely, and he stumbled to a van parked in front of the Burger King drive-in window, asking the occupants for help. (T. 803). When the driver did not respond, he went to the drive-in window, but the manager shut it in his face. (T. 803, 915).
In response to the disturbance in the parking lot, Officer MacPhail, who was working as a security guard at the restaurant, walked rapidly from behind the bus station, with his nightstick in his hand and ordered the three men to halt. (T. 849). Mr. Collins and Davis fled, and Officer MacPhail ran past Sylvester Coles in pursuit of Davis. (T. 851). Davis looked over his shoulder, and when the officer was five to six feet away, shot him. Officer MacPhail fell to the ground, and Davis walked towards him and shot him again while he was on the ground. (T. 850). One eyewitness testified that Davis was smiling at the time. (T. 851). The victim died of gunshot wounds before help arrived.
Davis fled to Atlanta the following day and surrendered to authorities on August 23, 1989.
Pursuant to an investigation, police learned that on the night of the killing, Davis had attended a party on Cloverdale Drive in a subdivision near Savannah. (T. 1115-1116). During the party, Davis, annoyed that some girls ignored him, told several of his friends something about “burning them.” (T. 146). Davis then walked around saying, “I feel like doing something, anything.” (T. 1464). When Michael Cooper and his friends were leaving the party, Davis was standing out front. (T. 1120). Michael Cooper was in the front passenger seat, and as the car pulled away, several of the men in the car leaned out the window shouting and throwing things. (T. 1120, 1186). Davis shot at the car from a couple of hundred feet away and the bullet shattered the back windshield and lodged in Michael Cooper’s right jaw. (T. 1186). Cooper was treated at the hospital and released and Cooper’s injury formed the basis for Count IV of Davis’ indictment. The shooting incident took place approximately one hour before Officer MacPhail was shot.
Shortly after Michael Cooper was shot, Eric Ellison and D.D. Collins picked up Davis in Cloverdale and took him to Brown’s Pool Hall in Savannah. Red Coles, wearing a yellow t-shirt, was already at the pool hall.
A ballistics expert testified that the bullet recovered from MacPhail’s body was of the same type and was possibly fired from the same weapon as used in the Cooper shooting. (T. 1292). Four .38 special casings recovered at Cloverdale, where Michael Cooper was wounded, were fired from the same gun as casings found at the scene of Officer MacPhail’s murder. (T. 1292).
At trial, Kevin McQueen, who was at the Chatham City Jail with Davis, testified that Davis told him there had been a party in Cloverdale on the night of the victim’s murder; Davis had argued with some men and there was an exchange of gunfire. (T. 1230-1231). Davis told McQueen he did some of the shooting. (T. 1231). After the party, Davis went to a girlfriend’s house and intended to eat breakfast at Burger King. Davis stated that he was with a friend and they ran into a guy who “owed money to buy dope.” (T. 1231). There was a fight, Officer MacPhail appeared, and Davis shot him in the face. As Officer MacPhail attempted to get up, Davis shot him again, because he was afraid MacPhail had seen him that night at Cloverdale. (T. 1232). Davis also told McQueen that he was on his way out of town to Atlanta. (T. 1232).
Jeffrey Lapp testified that Davis told him he did the shooting at Burger King, but that it was self-defense. (T. 1249-1252). Mr. Lapp noted that Davis’ street name was RAH, standing for “Rough As Hell.” (T. 1257).
Red Coles identified Davis as the perpetrator of Officer MacPhail’s murder, as did numerous other eyewitnesses, including Harriet Murray, Dorothy Ferrell, Daryl Collins, Antoine Williams, Steven Sanders and Larry Young.
Davis testified at trial. Davis admitted that he was present at the scene of the shooting on the night in question, but denied that he was involved in the shooting of Cooper or the victim or the assault on Larry Young.
The Trial (1989-1991)
Davis was found Davis guilty of one count of malice murder, one count of obstruction of a law enforcement officer, two counts of aggravated assault and one count of possession of firearm during the commission of a felony. The jury’s recommendation of a death sentence was returned on August 30, 1991. The Georgia Supreme Court unanimously affirmed Davis’ convictions and death sentence on February 26, 1993. Davis v. State, 263 Ga. 5, 426 S.E.2d 844 (1993). The Georgia Supreme Court specifically found that the evidence presented at Davis’ trial was sufficient to support the jury’s verdict, by stating that, “The evidence supports the conviction on all counts.” Davis v. State, 263 Ga. 5, 7 (1993). State Habeas Corpus Petition (1994-2001)
Davis, represented by the Georgia Resource Center, filed a petition for a writ of habeas corpus in the Superior Court of Butts County, Georgia on March 15, 1994. An evidentiary hearing was held on December 16, 1996.
On September 9, 1997, the state habeas corpus court denied Davis state habeas corpus relief, including his claim that he was not the shooter. (State habeas corpus order of September 5, 1997, denying relief, page 41). The Georgia Supreme Court affirmed the denial of state habeas corpus relief on November 13, 2000. Davis v. Turpin, 273 Ga. 244, 539 S.E.2d 129 (2000).
Davis then filed a petition for writ of certiorari in the United States Supreme Court, which was denied on October 1, 2001. Davis v. Turpin, 534 U.S. 842, 122 S.Ct. 100 (2001).
Federal Habeas Corpus Petition (2001-2004)
Davis, represented by Thomas Dunn, filed a petition for a writ of habeas corpus in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Georgia, Savannah Division, on December 14, 2001. On May 13, 2004, the district court denied Davis federal habeas corpus relief. In its order denying relief, the federal habeas corpus court denied Davis a federal evidentiary hearing stating that, “this Court finds that because the submitted affidavits are insufficient to raise doubts as to the constitutionality of the result at trial, there is no danger of a miscarriage of justice in declining to consider the claim.” (Federal habeas corpus order of 5/13/04, p. 25.).
11th Circuit Court of Appeals (2004-2006)
The case was orally argued before the Eleventh Circuit on September 7, 2005. On September 26, 2006, the Eleventh Circuit issued an opinion which affirmed the denial of federal habeas corpus relief to Davis. Davis v. Terry, 465 F.3d 1249 (11th Cir. 2006). In the Eleventh Circuit’s opinion, the Court noted, “In this case, Davis does not make a substantive claim of actual innocence. Rather, he argues that his constitutional claims of an unfair trial must be considered, even though they are otherwise procedurally defaulted, because he has made the requisite showing of actual innocence under Schlup.” Davis v. Terry, 465 F.3d 1249, 1251 (11th Cir. 2006). Reviewing each of Davis’s claims, the Eleventh Circuit affirmed the denial of federal habeas corpus relief by stating the following, “Having very carefully considered this record, we cannot say that the district court erred in concluding that Davis has not borne his burden to establish a viable claim that his trial was constitutionally unfair.” Davis v. Terry, 465 F.3d 1249, 1256 (11th Cir. 2006). Davis filed a petition for writ of certiorari in the United States Supreme Court on April 11, 2007, which was denied on June 25, 2007. Original Execution Date Set (July 17, 2007)
On June 29, 2007, Chief Judge Perry Brannen, Jr. of the Superior Court of Chatham County filed an order setting the execution of Troy Anthony Davis for July 17, 2007. Davis filed a motion for stay of execution and an extraordinary motion for new trial. The trial court granted a stay, and then “exhaustively reviewed” each submitted affidavit “and considered in great detail the relevant trial testimony, if any, corresponding to each.” In denying the extraordinary motion for new trial, the trial court concluded that, “Defendant has failed to carry the burden on each and every submitted affidavit.”
On appeal, the Georgia Supreme Court extensively reviewed each category of “affidavit testimony” on which Petitioner’s extraordinary motion relied, including: “recantations by trial witnesses,” “statements recounting alleged admissions of guilt by Coles,” “statements that Coles disposed of a handgun following the murder” and “alleged eyewitness accounts.” Davis v. State, 283 Ga. 438, 441-447, 660 S.E.2d 354 (2008). The Georgia Supreme Court held that, “Upon our careful review of Davis’s extraordinary motion for new trial and the trial record, we find that Davis failed to present such facts in his motion and, therefore, that the trial court did not abuse its discretion in denying that motion without a hearing.” Davis v. State, 283 Ga. at 448.
New Execution Date Set (September 23, 2008)
A new execution date was set for Troy Anthony Davis for September 23, 2008. On September 12, 2008, the Board of Pardons and Paroles denied commutation of death sentence and issued the following statement:
The Parole Board does not generally comment on death penalty cases it has considered for clemency. However, the Troy Davis case has received such extensive publicity that the Board has decided to make an exception.
Davis’ attorneys have argued that the Board should grant him clemency because a number of witnesses against Davis changed their earlier statements to the police and their testimony at the trial. Moreover, the attorneys have brought forward other people who now claim to have information that raises doubt as to the guilt of Davis.
Because of these claims, the Parole Board stopped Davis’ execution last year. The Board has now spent more than a year studying and considering this case.
As a part of its proceedings, the Board gave Davis’ attorneys an opportunity to present every witness they desired to support their allegation that there is doubt as to Davis’ guilt. The Board heard each of these witnesses and questioned them closely.
In addition, the Board has studied the voluminous trial transcript, the police investigation report and the initial statements of the witnesses. The Board has also had certain physical evidence retested and Davis interviewed.
After an exhaustive review of all available information regarding the Troy Davis case and after considering all possible reasons for granting clemency, the Board has determined that clemency is not warranted.
On September 23, 2008, the United States Supreme Court entered an order staying the execution pending disposition of Davis’s petition for writ of certiorari that had been previously filed on July 14, 2008. On October 14, 2008, the United States Supreme Court denied Davis’s petition for writ of certiorari, thus terminating the stay of execution. Davis v. Georgia, ___ U.S. ___, 129 S.Ct. 397 (2008).New Execution Date Set (October 27, 2008)
An new execution date was set for October 27, 2008.
On October 22, 2008, Davis filed an application for leave to file a second or successive habeas corpus petition. Respondent filed a response in opposition on October 23, 2008. On October 24, 2008, the Eleventh Circuit granted a conditional stay of execution and directed both parties to submit briefs addressing specific issues. Both parties submitted briefs, and an oral argument before the Eleventh Circuit was held on December 9, 2008. On April 16, 2009, the Eleventh Circuit denied Davis’s application for leave to file a second or successive habeas corpus petition. In re: Davis, 565 F.3d 810 (11th Cir. 2009). The Eleventh Circuit held:
In short, we are constrained by the statutory requirements found in § 2244(b)(2)(B) to conclude that Davis has not even come close to making a prima facie showing that his Herrera claim relies on (i) facts that could not have been discovered previously through the exercise of due diligence, and that (ii), if proven, would “establish by clear and convincing evidence that, but for constitutional error, no reasonable factfinder would have found the applicant guilty of the underlying offense.” 28 U.S.C. § 2244(b)(2)(B) (2006). He, therefore, cannot file a successive petition.In re Davis, 565 F.3d at 824.
Davis subsequently filed an original writ in the United States Supreme Court on May 19, 2009. On August 17, 2009, the United States Supreme Court transferred the case to the district court for that court to “receive testimony and make findings of fact as to whether evidence that could not have been obtained at the time of the trial establishes petitioner’s innocence.” In re Davis, ___ U.S. ___, 130 S.Ct. 1 (2009).
Following briefing and discovery, a federal evidentiary hearing was conducted in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Georgia, Savannah Division, on June 23-24, 2010. On August 24, 2010, the United States District Court entered an order denying Davis’s petition for a writ of habeas corpus. In denying relief, the district court held:
Ultimately, while Mr. Davis's new evidence casts some additional, minimal doubt on his conviction, it is largely smoke and mirrors. The vast majority of the evidence at trial remains intact, and the new evidence is largely not credible or lacking in probative value. After careful consideration, the Court finds that Mr. Davis has failed to make a showing of actual innocence that would entitle him to habeas relief in federal court.In re: Davis, Case No. CV409-130.
Thereafter, Davis filed a petition for writ of certiorari in the United States Supreme Court on January 21, 2011, which was denied on March 28, 2011.
[1]References to the transcript of Davis’ trial will be referred to as “T”, followed by the appropriate page number of the trial transcript.
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